yoda
09-11 11:20 PM
Thanks for your thread on this Pappu, I was just about to create this thread.
So here goes the first draft:
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Dear XXXX,
Thousands of SKILLED LEGAL professionals, such as Scientists, Doctors, University Professors, Engineers, MBA's, Health Care Professionals and other professionals from all over the country who have contributed billions to the US ecomony are planning to participate in an unprecedented rally in the nation's capital on Tuesday, Sept. 18th to draw the attention of US lawmakers and American public towards excessive delays and backlogs in the Employment based Immigration system.
A group of rally participants from [your state] is meeting with Senators XXX and XXX with the hope of taking their help in supporting legislative changes to the Employment based Immigration system.
This peaceful rally is being organized by Immigration Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org), a grass-roots advocacy group of high-skilled legal immigrants.
For more information, please visit the following links:
//http://www.touchdownusa.org/RallyCentral/WashingtonDCRallyPressRelease.html
//http://www.touchdownusa.org/RallyCentral/WashingtonDCRallyPressRelease.pdf
//http://www.touchdownusa.org/RallyCentral/WashingtonDCRallyPressRelease.doc
Since this is an unprecedented event from a very quiet group who have always remained in the sidelines of the recent Immigration debates, please provide visibility to this event so the plight of these law abiding, tax paying, highly educated people is spread among a larger group of people that would help drive the required legislative changes.
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State coordinators, please take up this responsibility and work with your team to get this done. I will be coordinating with the people in NH and MA. Lets fire off on all the cylinders now for the final big takeoff...
So here goes the first draft:
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Dear XXXX,
Thousands of SKILLED LEGAL professionals, such as Scientists, Doctors, University Professors, Engineers, MBA's, Health Care Professionals and other professionals from all over the country who have contributed billions to the US ecomony are planning to participate in an unprecedented rally in the nation's capital on Tuesday, Sept. 18th to draw the attention of US lawmakers and American public towards excessive delays and backlogs in the Employment based Immigration system.
A group of rally participants from [your state] is meeting with Senators XXX and XXX with the hope of taking their help in supporting legislative changes to the Employment based Immigration system.
This peaceful rally is being organized by Immigration Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org), a grass-roots advocacy group of high-skilled legal immigrants.
For more information, please visit the following links:
//http://www.touchdownusa.org/RallyCentral/WashingtonDCRallyPressRelease.html
//http://www.touchdownusa.org/RallyCentral/WashingtonDCRallyPressRelease.pdf
//http://www.touchdownusa.org/RallyCentral/WashingtonDCRallyPressRelease.doc
Since this is an unprecedented event from a very quiet group who have always remained in the sidelines of the recent Immigration debates, please provide visibility to this event so the plight of these law abiding, tax paying, highly educated people is spread among a larger group of people that would help drive the required legislative changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
State coordinators, please take up this responsibility and work with your team to get this done. I will be coordinating with the people in NH and MA. Lets fire off on all the cylinders now for the final big takeoff...
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amits
07-19 01:27 PM
Thanks espoir for your contribution!!
Really heartening to see more and people coming forward with contributions...
And seems like all the efforts we made did work. check this out:
Skilled Workers May See Green-Card Surge
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_068854.htm
Come on guys.. come forward to support IV. We need to keep the momentum up and make sure Lawmakers hear and work on our problems. This will definitely need lobbying, which needs money.
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Really heartening to see more and people coming forward with contributions...
And seems like all the efforts we made did work. check this out:
Skilled Workers May See Green-Card Surge
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_068854.htm
Come on guys.. come forward to support IV. We need to keep the momentum up and make sure Lawmakers hear and work on our problems. This will definitely need lobbying, which needs money.
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485Mbe4001
08-13 05:14 PM
Thank you. you are one of the very few, i commend you on your post and support.
The last couple of VBs have brought out the worst amongst us, so much for together we stand, after reading the posts, it was more like 'you stand while i climb over you' :)
I started a thread couple of weeks back. It met an untimely death because of lack of participation from people. Just to revive your memory :
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20406
Today we are here almost on the verge of disintegration as an organization. And this is because we always believed in our minds that we are nothing but a bunch of opportunists coming together for our individual cause of getting a GC. What we see today is an outcome of what we always believed. Soon EB2 will disappear, and EB3 will be left alone fighting for their GC's. And at some point of time they will also go away, all that's left will be "guests" using IV as a discussion forum. May be what I suggested can be termed as "Quixotic" but unless we aim high, we will never reach high.
Guys, I am an EB2 with PD in 2004, but I will always stand together with you, no matter what. A GC for myself alone will never satisfy me, because number of my friends, my family members are in EB3, and I am not mean enough to celebrate for myself when majority of my friends and family members are sad.
The last couple of VBs have brought out the worst amongst us, so much for together we stand, after reading the posts, it was more like 'you stand while i climb over you' :)
I started a thread couple of weeks back. It met an untimely death because of lack of participation from people. Just to revive your memory :
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20406
Today we are here almost on the verge of disintegration as an organization. And this is because we always believed in our minds that we are nothing but a bunch of opportunists coming together for our individual cause of getting a GC. What we see today is an outcome of what we always believed. Soon EB2 will disappear, and EB3 will be left alone fighting for their GC's. And at some point of time they will also go away, all that's left will be "guests" using IV as a discussion forum. May be what I suggested can be termed as "Quixotic" but unless we aim high, we will never reach high.
Guys, I am an EB2 with PD in 2004, but I will always stand together with you, no matter what. A GC for myself alone will never satisfy me, because number of my friends, my family members are in EB3, and I am not mean enough to celebrate for myself when majority of my friends and family members are sad.
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santb1975
06-06 03:47 PM
We need to do this
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chanduv23
08-03 11:16 PM
^^^^^^^^^^
Please navigate to the following threads and do the action items
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11694&page=2
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11962
Please navigate to the following threads and do the action items
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11694&page=2
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11962
h1techSlave
04-17 07:58 PM
After I have submitted the 485 receipt, my loan guy went to a meeting. I will hear back from him in a couple of days.
485 does mean some thing to them. But they seem to avoid that so that they can charge more interest rate.
Right now, there is huge demand for loans. So they are bringing in many artificial road blocks to increase interest rates.
H4+ I-485 pending still is a valid status. Now what rules they have regarding approving the loan to someone who is not working (because of H4 status) is something I am unaware of and not immigration related, I guess.
But if you are going to send them a copy of your I-485 application, that should mean SOMETHING in their eyes.
Do let us know how it goes. It will also be helpful to others in your situation. Good luck!
485 does mean some thing to them. But they seem to avoid that so that they can charge more interest rate.
Right now, there is huge demand for loans. So they are bringing in many artificial road blocks to increase interest rates.
H4+ I-485 pending still is a valid status. Now what rules they have regarding approving the loan to someone who is not working (because of H4 status) is something I am unaware of and not immigration related, I guess.
But if you are going to send them a copy of your I-485 application, that should mean SOMETHING in their eyes.
Do let us know how it goes. It will also be helpful to others in your situation. Good luck!
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deepimpact
08-23 09:29 AM
deepimpact, shame on you to think like this. This is just one more of example of how ignorant the immigrant community is about the ground realities of these law changes in the employment-based immigration rules which includes H1B, L1s, EB apps etc.
1. The neufield memo of Employer-employee relationship & giving not 3 years of H1B visas but in some cases depending on the contract 3 months of H1B visas.
2. The fee hikes of H1B & L1 visas.
3. Make EB1, EB2 etc more strict to make it almost impossible to get anymore EB2 apps approved. BTW there is nothing which stops them from issuing another memo to review all EB2/EB3 I-140 approval and revise the approvals & deny them if deemed necessary. What would you say then?
You completely missed the point. Put the events in chronological order and you will realize why IV Core insists on meeting lawmakers. Pretty soon, there will be no avenues even with a lot of legitimate experience for an immigrant unless they end up winning nobel prizes....sorry there are not many nobel prize winners in this world and I have not met one so far.
Anyway, hope others continue to meet the lawmakers leaving your EB2-EB3 divide to ask them for recapture and removal of country limits.
Peace.
I aplogize if I hurt someone. But don't shoot the messenger, I was trying to enumerate the possible impacts of the memo. And looking at current changes to employment based immigration policies be it about H1B,L1 or EB it appears they are trying to clamp down on rather lose interpretation of minimum requirements for these visa categories which has led to overuse and abuse of them.for e.g H1B going to lottery on the very first day in 2008.
But it seems these specifications are about EB1 and EB2 with exceptional ability (not with advance degree category) where the requriements is just a list of 10 items without any emphasis on what is defined as a succesful crietria of meeting those items.
I guess you may have got pissed off with my third point , believe me I am not one here to create EB2-EB3 divide. Because no change in legislation is going to be for a particular EB category, it needs to be for the entire EB. Be it visa recapture, per country limit removal or dependants not being counted.
1. The neufield memo of Employer-employee relationship & giving not 3 years of H1B visas but in some cases depending on the contract 3 months of H1B visas.
2. The fee hikes of H1B & L1 visas.
3. Make EB1, EB2 etc more strict to make it almost impossible to get anymore EB2 apps approved. BTW there is nothing which stops them from issuing another memo to review all EB2/EB3 I-140 approval and revise the approvals & deny them if deemed necessary. What would you say then?
You completely missed the point. Put the events in chronological order and you will realize why IV Core insists on meeting lawmakers. Pretty soon, there will be no avenues even with a lot of legitimate experience for an immigrant unless they end up winning nobel prizes....sorry there are not many nobel prize winners in this world and I have not met one so far.
Anyway, hope others continue to meet the lawmakers leaving your EB2-EB3 divide to ask them for recapture and removal of country limits.
Peace.
I aplogize if I hurt someone. But don't shoot the messenger, I was trying to enumerate the possible impacts of the memo. And looking at current changes to employment based immigration policies be it about H1B,L1 or EB it appears they are trying to clamp down on rather lose interpretation of minimum requirements for these visa categories which has led to overuse and abuse of them.for e.g H1B going to lottery on the very first day in 2008.
But it seems these specifications are about EB1 and EB2 with exceptional ability (not with advance degree category) where the requriements is just a list of 10 items without any emphasis on what is defined as a succesful crietria of meeting those items.
I guess you may have got pissed off with my third point , believe me I am not one here to create EB2-EB3 divide. Because no change in legislation is going to be for a particular EB category, it needs to be for the entire EB. Be it visa recapture, per country limit removal or dependants not being counted.
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gc28262
08-12 01:22 PM
My wife works in a company where a good number of IT folks are staffed by INFY. The poor quality of work made the company think about not extending INFY's contract. But then it came out in the open that there was no documentation on how the applications were built, etc. INFY got wind of this, and now they have positioned themselves in the organization where without them, this company's IT would collapse.
There are many such stories of outsourcing firms that are holding client companies hostage. Though I do not agree with the bill, I think the bill brings back some ethics into play. Especially the L1 loophole.
This is more of the client company's fault than Infys. It is upto the client to demand documentation for all the stuff Infy does. Infy will happily do that.
I used to work for an Indian IT firm in India in 1998 where our client was a major corporation here. The client used to demand so much documentation and follow stringent procedures that we were spending most of our time in documenting and following the procedures than doing the real work. This company did this happily without complaining. Client made sure that no company can hijack them.
So it is more of a management issue at client company in this case.
BTW many employees use this technique for their job security.
There are many such stories of outsourcing firms that are holding client companies hostage. Though I do not agree with the bill, I think the bill brings back some ethics into play. Especially the L1 loophole.
This is more of the client company's fault than Infys. It is upto the client to demand documentation for all the stuff Infy does. Infy will happily do that.
I used to work for an Indian IT firm in India in 1998 where our client was a major corporation here. The client used to demand so much documentation and follow stringent procedures that we were spending most of our time in documenting and following the procedures than doing the real work. This company did this happily without complaining. Client made sure that no company can hijack them.
So it is more of a management issue at client company in this case.
BTW many employees use this technique for their job security.
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pointlesswait
02-27 12:04 PM
i just hope it moves by 1-2 months...so at that rate..we can be certain that they know what they are doing.
somebody should sue USCIS for transperancy!
somebody should sue USCIS for transperancy!
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hebbar77
09-11 08:53 PM
I am in . What do we do. flowers with calculators or a simple math book seems a good idea.
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kartikiran
12-10 04:11 PM
Good they have seem to have read recently published IV analysis and recommendations and provided a much more detailed bulletin this month for the community.
agreed. kudos to IV core to push for more detailed explanations without which proposals for fixing this backlog also becomes difficult.
agreed. kudos to IV core to push for more detailed explanations without which proposals for fixing this backlog also becomes difficult.
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eb3_nepa
07-05 02:28 PM
Called up Sen Casey's office and I was told that in the local office they cant do much about a mass enquiry but he volunteered to do it on a personal basis for my case in particular.
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BharatPremi
07-06 01:57 PM
This is too confusing, it looks like USCIS is going crazy.
No This is a height of Cruelity from USCIS. They must have interpreted lot of phone calls and inquiries as "people might not have understood the revision" as they are not from "English Speaking" countries so change it and put "Flip" and "Flop" together as somebody mentioned ahead. But if people might not have understood "Flip" and "Flop" then how can they understand "Flip-Flop"?:)
No This is a height of Cruelity from USCIS. They must have interpreted lot of phone calls and inquiries as "people might not have understood the revision" as they are not from "English Speaking" countries so change it and put "Flip" and "Flop" together as somebody mentioned ahead. But if people might not have understood "Flip" and "Flop" then how can they understand "Flip-Flop"?:)
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sidbee
08-13 11:19 PM
This is the third place where I am posting this ..well why not ..In my view this is worth a shot since greenspan is also talking about it.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080813/bs_nm/usa_economy_greenspan_dc
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Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan predicts U.S. house prices will begin to stabilize in the first half of next year, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.
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Greenspan also offered a novel suggestion to bolster the housing market -- increase the number of potential home buyers by admitting more skilled immigrants
Thats why USCIS/DOS are trying to make EB2 current , so that they all can buy houses and save the economy :-)
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080813/bs_nm/usa_economy_greenspan_dc
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Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan predicts U.S. house prices will begin to stabilize in the first half of next year, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.
ADVERTISEMENT
Greenspan also offered a novel suggestion to bolster the housing market -- increase the number of potential home buyers by admitting more skilled immigrants
Thats why USCIS/DOS are trying to make EB2 current , so that they all can buy houses and save the economy :-)
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02-09 10:05 AM
This, effectively, means that if the girl stops earning for any reason such as pregnancy or is unable to earn, she immediately forfeits the right to send money to her parents. This is the most illogical statement I have ever heard.
And it also means that for any reason, if a girl remains a house wife, she has no right to send any money to the parents like you, as the earning member, do.
This is the very strange attitude that may get a marriage in trouble.
Did I even say husband shouldn't send money to his parents from his earnings?
But shouldn't that be also need-based? How come it is the right of the husband to send any amount of money he wants to his parents without the wife complaining and how come it becomes a case of "taking for granted" when a non-earning wife wants to send money to her folks in need? This is a hypothetical situation and nothing to do with OP's case.
And then how is it we, husbands, are the first ones to start complaining when our wives don't get a share of our in-laws property following their demise?
And tell me then, following a divorce why are there laws which require you to split your net worth evenly with your non-working ex-wife? Is that acceptable to you then or you want to put forth an argument that "hey, we don't have a child and she is no longer my wife and so I am not obligated to give her a dime"
My stand is based on the premise that a man is financially responsible for his wife and his kids and not to wife's parents! The point I was making is about a completely non working spouse. It is not about a wife that leaves workforce for medical reason temporarily.
Let us not confuse the responsibility towards a man's wife and kids with that of in-laws!
Using the same token, a man shouldn't expect/demand any property/cash from in-laws!
I'm perfectly OK with humanitarian and need based help. What crosses the line, according to me, is that 'taking for granted' attitude!
If the brother in OP's story is taking care of his parents, then this situation wouldn't have occurred. Look at it other way. If the man's parents are in need of money, it is better to ask the man instead of their son-in-law!
A man taking a stand and be done with it has a better chance of saving a marriage than a man caving to the demand and building resentment. Hey, if a man is willing to please his in-laws in all possible ways, then who are we to stop him! Let him enjoy!!
And it also means that for any reason, if a girl remains a house wife, she has no right to send any money to the parents like you, as the earning member, do.
This is the very strange attitude that may get a marriage in trouble.
Did I even say husband shouldn't send money to his parents from his earnings?
But shouldn't that be also need-based? How come it is the right of the husband to send any amount of money he wants to his parents without the wife complaining and how come it becomes a case of "taking for granted" when a non-earning wife wants to send money to her folks in need? This is a hypothetical situation and nothing to do with OP's case.
And then how is it we, husbands, are the first ones to start complaining when our wives don't get a share of our in-laws property following their demise?
And tell me then, following a divorce why are there laws which require you to split your net worth evenly with your non-working ex-wife? Is that acceptable to you then or you want to put forth an argument that "hey, we don't have a child and she is no longer my wife and so I am not obligated to give her a dime"
My stand is based on the premise that a man is financially responsible for his wife and his kids and not to wife's parents! The point I was making is about a completely non working spouse. It is not about a wife that leaves workforce for medical reason temporarily.
Let us not confuse the responsibility towards a man's wife and kids with that of in-laws!
Using the same token, a man shouldn't expect/demand any property/cash from in-laws!
I'm perfectly OK with humanitarian and need based help. What crosses the line, according to me, is that 'taking for granted' attitude!
If the brother in OP's story is taking care of his parents, then this situation wouldn't have occurred. Look at it other way. If the man's parents are in need of money, it is better to ask the man instead of their son-in-law!
A man taking a stand and be done with it has a better chance of saving a marriage than a man caving to the demand and building resentment. Hey, if a man is willing to please his in-laws in all possible ways, then who are we to stop him! Let him enjoy!!
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mps
07-20 06:25 PM
You have to consider the scenario where both spouses have LC pending in PERM and BEC- and only one may have applied for 485. I'm just hoping people who have bought the LCs and tuned their work experience to suit available LC would be scrutinized strictly and would stay in I-140 stage longer.
Out of the 144k perm, FEW have 2 labors (1 in eb3 and another in eb2). Also many have labors in BEC as well as PERM (THIS IS QUITE A LOT). So the total real applicants combined from BEC and PERM could be around 200k. Not all the dependants (kids) need EAD. Not all the primary applicants apply for EAD. The total approximate EAD applicants could be 350K.
ALSO, ONE THING YOU HAVEN'T CONSIDERED...As the priority dates are unavailable until october and the expected slow movement of the 2008 bullettins(because they have the count of pending applicants now), there will be only very few EAD applicants in next few months. How ever, all these applicants will re-apply every year...they they can expect this same load until they provide a relief to issue visas to everybody.
Note: Next year..expect the same delay for renewal.
Out of the 144k perm, FEW have 2 labors (1 in eb3 and another in eb2). Also many have labors in BEC as well as PERM (THIS IS QUITE A LOT). So the total real applicants combined from BEC and PERM could be around 200k. Not all the dependants (kids) need EAD. Not all the primary applicants apply for EAD. The total approximate EAD applicants could be 350K.
ALSO, ONE THING YOU HAVEN'T CONSIDERED...As the priority dates are unavailable until october and the expected slow movement of the 2008 bullettins(because they have the count of pending applicants now), there will be only very few EAD applicants in next few months. How ever, all these applicants will re-apply every year...they they can expect this same load until they provide a relief to issue visas to everybody.
Note: Next year..expect the same delay for renewal.
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nixstor
04-30 03:07 PM
SO IF they move PD's to 2006 dec then there is aposibility that all 2006 pd 's get GC's before @001 pd's.:mad:
Aytes said " We are moving towards processing based on the shift in priority dates"
what I understood is Aytes is talking about the sweep USCIS is conducting as soon as the VB released. The sweep was mentioned by a lot of service center personnel when members were calling for case status
Aytes said " We are moving towards processing based on the shift in priority dates"
what I understood is Aytes is talking about the sweep USCIS is conducting as soon as the VB released. The sweep was mentioned by a lot of service center personnel when members were calling for case status
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vin13
03-08 10:48 PM
http://www.shusterman.com/
news ticker mentions Eb3 ROW and Eb3 phillipines will Retrogress by 1 year to 2004. (He mentions a phone call from Hillary, not too sure whether to believe it)
Could this be futher indication that the spill over from Eb1 and Eb4 and Eb5 will go to Eb2 India and China?
only Monday will tell... This is one nerve wracking weekend.
It is weird that Shusterman had information about ROW EB-3 retrogressing by 1 year. Why did he not say anything about EB-2?
news ticker mentions Eb3 ROW and Eb3 phillipines will Retrogress by 1 year to 2004. (He mentions a phone call from Hillary, not too sure whether to believe it)
Could this be futher indication that the spill over from Eb1 and Eb4 and Eb5 will go to Eb2 India and China?
only Monday will tell... This is one nerve wracking weekend.
It is weird that Shusterman had information about ROW EB-3 retrogressing by 1 year. Why did he not say anything about EB-2?
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