lotsofspace
12-10 04:30 PM
I completely understand the frustration expressed by logiclife.
We either fail to appreciate or choose to ignore the fact that not every one is in the same situation when it comes to GC. For some, it is THE THING. For some it is just Nice to Have and some don't care. If it comes as a by product of being here so be it. Some of more desperate than others ...
Most people around here are educated and know what they are doing. I believe that was their decision and they have every right to make that.
1) I have a friend of mine, he is gainfully employed for his skills and his wife needs to be in this place for next 5 years. So he does not bother as long as his company applies for 10 to 13 year H1 extension (Which they did). Never visits IV, does not really care what happens around here.... I don't blame him.
2) Another friend of mine joined at a junior level and can't wait to get out of here with AC21. Now that he has MBA, wants to move up with AC21 (know, it is not allowed now). I told this person about our omnibus and he contributed.
and other people fall all over the spectrum of interest from apathy to can't live without it.
If I were in logiclife's situation I probably would react the same way, but I am NOT the leader of the org :) :)
I doubt who frequent here would have felt bad about the logiclife's comments, because it was just logic life being logiclife. :)
At the same time I don't think calling some one coward persuaded any one to contribute monetarily , If they have not contributed so far or decided not to. It sure would have released some of the frustration of some active members :)
My Original Peaceful question again:
Does battering members without knowing a real cause and passing judgements and making snide remarks help this movement in any way?
Anyone ?
I know there may be a number of people here who don't care about participation. But I also know they are outnumbered by sensible/mature members.
Occasionally administrators here start an emotional post, which is taken highly positively by active followers but not general population. Then there begins a war, Lines are drawn with elephants/horses on both sides.
This place is a complete disaster when it comes to PR.
One Solution - Close this place and stop aggravating people.
Real Solution - Do what is right forge ahead with defined agenda, don't make people ashamed or left out or make snide remarks as leaders/followers or activists.
Keeping a movement alive needs strong and open minded leaders. I think there are plenty of those leaders at immigrationvoice, Logiclife may or may not be one of them, i don't know (never met him or talked to him, neither have the desire), You don't have to make people join the movement, movement is when people follow with their hearts.
Since I am back in "red" after one Logical question on Logiclife's post in three months, I will go back to my exile, and let activists/followers rule this movement.
Peace again..
It's a sad day to see IVers granting each other 'red squares' , and committed members asking each other to 'shut up'.
We are quick in jumping at each others throat for no apparent real reason ! Being part of a forum is sharing space with others, with those whom you disagree, and those who disagree with you. Argue logically, but don't make it a personal fight.
Don't agree with someone, make your displeasure known. If things seem to be getting hotter, ignore the other person. Live and let live. We have bigger issues to worry here - GC mess - instead of who said what !
Agreed. But I am not surprised that oldmonk got reds. :(
For all those who want to make it pay site, I guess the core must have thought about it already and make it one if that makes sense.
We either fail to appreciate or choose to ignore the fact that not every one is in the same situation when it comes to GC. For some, it is THE THING. For some it is just Nice to Have and some don't care. If it comes as a by product of being here so be it. Some of more desperate than others ...
Most people around here are educated and know what they are doing. I believe that was their decision and they have every right to make that.
1) I have a friend of mine, he is gainfully employed for his skills and his wife needs to be in this place for next 5 years. So he does not bother as long as his company applies for 10 to 13 year H1 extension (Which they did). Never visits IV, does not really care what happens around here.... I don't blame him.
2) Another friend of mine joined at a junior level and can't wait to get out of here with AC21. Now that he has MBA, wants to move up with AC21 (know, it is not allowed now). I told this person about our omnibus and he contributed.
and other people fall all over the spectrum of interest from apathy to can't live without it.
If I were in logiclife's situation I probably would react the same way, but I am NOT the leader of the org :) :)
I doubt who frequent here would have felt bad about the logiclife's comments, because it was just logic life being logiclife. :)
At the same time I don't think calling some one coward persuaded any one to contribute monetarily , If they have not contributed so far or decided not to. It sure would have released some of the frustration of some active members :)
My Original Peaceful question again:
Does battering members without knowing a real cause and passing judgements and making snide remarks help this movement in any way?
Anyone ?
I know there may be a number of people here who don't care about participation. But I also know they are outnumbered by sensible/mature members.
Occasionally administrators here start an emotional post, which is taken highly positively by active followers but not general population. Then there begins a war, Lines are drawn with elephants/horses on both sides.
This place is a complete disaster when it comes to PR.
One Solution - Close this place and stop aggravating people.
Real Solution - Do what is right forge ahead with defined agenda, don't make people ashamed or left out or make snide remarks as leaders/followers or activists.
Keeping a movement alive needs strong and open minded leaders. I think there are plenty of those leaders at immigrationvoice, Logiclife may or may not be one of them, i don't know (never met him or talked to him, neither have the desire), You don't have to make people join the movement, movement is when people follow with their hearts.
Since I am back in "red" after one Logical question on Logiclife's post in three months, I will go back to my exile, and let activists/followers rule this movement.
Peace again..
It's a sad day to see IVers granting each other 'red squares' , and committed members asking each other to 'shut up'.
We are quick in jumping at each others throat for no apparent real reason ! Being part of a forum is sharing space with others, with those whom you disagree, and those who disagree with you. Argue logically, but don't make it a personal fight.
Don't agree with someone, make your displeasure known. If things seem to be getting hotter, ignore the other person. Live and let live. We have bigger issues to worry here - GC mess - instead of who said what !
Agreed. But I am not surprised that oldmonk got reds. :(
For all those who want to make it pay site, I guess the core must have thought about it already and make it one if that makes sense.
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10-19 12:49 PM
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grupak
07-12 05:58 PM
The call campaign is still on. We need the congressman's support.
We need calls especially from members in the congressman's district in Texas.
We cannot stop until all EB immigrants are helped. EB3 is badly backlogged , and we shouldn't start celebrating yet for EB2 China and India yet from a single VB.
Please call. Especially from Texas.
We need calls especially from members in the congressman's district in Texas.
We cannot stop until all EB immigrants are helped. EB3 is badly backlogged , and we shouldn't start celebrating yet for EB2 China and India yet from a single VB.
Please call. Especially from Texas.
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WaldenPond
03-23 11:10 AM
Here is an interesting news article about partisan politics and Immigration bill.
Reid threatens filibuster as immigration showdown looms
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/14162755.htm
Reid threatens filibuster as immigration showdown looms
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/14162755.htm
nik.patelc
09-30 09:34 PM
Dude you brought up the point of being a proud donor. Nobody gives a hoot if you donate or not.
You are doing it for yourself and not for humanity.
Get it right!
And the way you behave shows what kind of background you have (UP/Bihar)
So just grow up and learn how to respect others!!!
Arunmurthy, Please dont drag UP/Bihar. Bihari are proud indian too. I am not bihar but narrow minded guy like you talk all this nonsense. People from south may be educated, techy but very discrimating and hyprocrate. Most sound indian just hang out on their identity group and we all know if non south indian and south indian go to interview for tech job and person taking interview is from south, who gets job?
You are doing it for yourself and not for humanity.
Get it right!
And the way you behave shows what kind of background you have (UP/Bihar)
So just grow up and learn how to respect others!!!
Arunmurthy, Please dont drag UP/Bihar. Bihari are proud indian too. I am not bihar but narrow minded guy like you talk all this nonsense. People from south may be educated, techy but very discrimating and hyprocrate. Most sound indian just hang out on their identity group and we all know if non south indian and south indian go to interview for tech job and person taking interview is from south, who gets job?
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09-12 01:56 PM
Don't wait.
The time will
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The time is NOW!!!
It's NOW or NEVER!!!
Come to DC & let's be heard!!!
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The time is NOW!!!
It's NOW or NEVER!!!
Come to DC & let's be heard!!!
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Michael chertoff
03-29 08:31 AM
Check out the EB2 prediction thread. There is some good news for EB2 guys per OH Law firm. Hope that will cheer you guys up :D:D:D
PlainSpeak I am hearing this from last 7 years.. I dont believe untill it happens. Thank you for the information.
PlainSpeak I am hearing this from last 7 years.. I dont believe untill it happens. Thank you for the information.
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justAnotherFile
11-08 03:15 PM
Ombudsman,
I think I have asked this question to you before..
If you want to sound credible with your daily "Reality Bites", first disclose the following:
- which is your country of birth
- what stage is your GC in
- EB1, EB2 or EB3
Also mention the reason why you are so concerned with illegal immigration and other issues that affect the American way of life when it is totally up in the air whether you will be a future stakeholder in this country?
Why would a person who is doubtful to ever be "Green" , be so passionate about being "Red" instead of "Blue" or vice-versa?
-justAnotehrFile
I think I have asked this question to you before..
If you want to sound credible with your daily "Reality Bites", first disclose the following:
- which is your country of birth
- what stage is your GC in
- EB1, EB2 or EB3
Also mention the reason why you are so concerned with illegal immigration and other issues that affect the American way of life when it is totally up in the air whether you will be a future stakeholder in this country?
Why would a person who is doubtful to ever be "Green" , be so passionate about being "Red" instead of "Blue" or vice-versa?
-justAnotehrFile
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harsh
03-17 03:28 PM
My understanding is advanced degrees can be from any country but the 3 years work experience requirement refers to work experience in USA.
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saimrathi
07-05 08:51 AM
Wow, that sucks..
my app reached USCIS on July 2nd. I called up USCIS, the lady read the July Bulletin update word by word and then told me that my application will be rejected and the original documents will be sent back. She did not have an answer on how soon this will happen.
my app reached USCIS on July 2nd. I called up USCIS, the lady read the July Bulletin update word by word and then told me that my application will be rejected and the original documents will be sent back. She did not have an answer on how soon this will happen.
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gconmymind
06-14 06:34 PM
I am currently on H1 and plan to get married in India next month and file 485 for me and wife next month. She will be able to travel with me on H4. If she starts using EAD after getting it, does that invalidate my H1? I plan to continue with the same employer on H1.
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marlon2006
07-18 10:33 AM
I thought about that as well.
In my home country, you are *supposed* to list your age on your resume. I am not kidding. They don't consider your resume if you don't put your age there. If I go back there in few years from now (I am 34 now), I am not sure I would be successful there anymore.
Folks, we are in a very difficult situation. Our careers are in grave danger. I was planning to wait for GC to let potential employers pay my masters degree, but no way. I already submitted the paperwork to resume the sucker MBA this Fall and pay the whole thing from my pockets. Either that or I should trigger AC21 very soon.
If the October visa bulletin shows EB3 World stagnated or retrogressed, you can bet a Starbucks coffee I will be looking for another job/AC21 very fast.
Some people advise to wait and watch and some people ask to do something else. I would like to say one thing and it is purely my perspective. People who are waiting inline for 8-10years does not know when they will be getting their GC in hand. May be in next four to five years. By that time on average their age will be around 35-45.
Do you want to wait 4-5 years and do the job which you were doing 10years back?
Did you had any vision for your career when you started your GC and life?
Do you have the same vision now for your career and life?
Did you feel you and your family have sacrified enough in your personel life for this stupid GC?
IF YOU SAY I HAVE DECIDED TO GO BACK TO MY HOME COUNTRY:
Do you think you will get a managerial job if you go back to india at the age of 40 when you could see guys @30 doing that job with ease and with better experience?
Do you think becos of 10+years of expereince in programming field, indian companies will recruit you for managerial job?
Are you willing to work in India as a programmer with 10+ years of US exp under a 25-30 year old team lead or PM ?
If you say YES , YES , YES for all the above, do you think any indian company will recruit a programmer at the age of 40? forget about the salary you are going to ask for your exp which they will never accept.
So at the end if you wait long enough for GC, then it is better to wait here until you get it. At least you can save your life though you have to start your career from -10years. If you quit and decide to go back to your homecountry, your life is going to be tough.
Options for guys waiting for 8-10years for LC:
1. Try to get PMI Certification, CISA certificaiton.
2. Try to get TOEFL, GMAT scores and keep it ready.
3. Try to get in contacts with most of your friends and manpower agencies in India.
4. If you file for your 485 in next one or one and half years, then proeceed with MBA plans(parttime or full time or executive MBA) in top 25-30 business school.
5. Your waiting will yeild fruit in this country only with MBA as in next 10 years, US will need more managers than programmers to manager all their outsourced projects.
6. If you do not have such vision and you are happy with what you are doing now and if your job is secured for next 100years and if you feel that you will be happy in future by doing the same job and OK with other kids going up the ladder stepping on you and if you are ok reporting to them and listening to them, getting bashed by them etc etc, you can very well wait for next 100 years hoping to get GC one day.
I am not talking about one guy in one corner living beautiful life.
I am not talking about guys who are lucky on everthing to get on time including GC.
I am talking about majority of the people and general human nature, people who came to US with a vision for their career and life. People who have had and has a spark in their eyes.
In my home country, you are *supposed* to list your age on your resume. I am not kidding. They don't consider your resume if you don't put your age there. If I go back there in few years from now (I am 34 now), I am not sure I would be successful there anymore.
Folks, we are in a very difficult situation. Our careers are in grave danger. I was planning to wait for GC to let potential employers pay my masters degree, but no way. I already submitted the paperwork to resume the sucker MBA this Fall and pay the whole thing from my pockets. Either that or I should trigger AC21 very soon.
If the October visa bulletin shows EB3 World stagnated or retrogressed, you can bet a Starbucks coffee I will be looking for another job/AC21 very fast.
Some people advise to wait and watch and some people ask to do something else. I would like to say one thing and it is purely my perspective. People who are waiting inline for 8-10years does not know when they will be getting their GC in hand. May be in next four to five years. By that time on average their age will be around 35-45.
Do you want to wait 4-5 years and do the job which you were doing 10years back?
Did you had any vision for your career when you started your GC and life?
Do you have the same vision now for your career and life?
Did you feel you and your family have sacrified enough in your personel life for this stupid GC?
IF YOU SAY I HAVE DECIDED TO GO BACK TO MY HOME COUNTRY:
Do you think you will get a managerial job if you go back to india at the age of 40 when you could see guys @30 doing that job with ease and with better experience?
Do you think becos of 10+years of expereince in programming field, indian companies will recruit you for managerial job?
Are you willing to work in India as a programmer with 10+ years of US exp under a 25-30 year old team lead or PM ?
If you say YES , YES , YES for all the above, do you think any indian company will recruit a programmer at the age of 40? forget about the salary you are going to ask for your exp which they will never accept.
So at the end if you wait long enough for GC, then it is better to wait here until you get it. At least you can save your life though you have to start your career from -10years. If you quit and decide to go back to your homecountry, your life is going to be tough.
Options for guys waiting for 8-10years for LC:
1. Try to get PMI Certification, CISA certificaiton.
2. Try to get TOEFL, GMAT scores and keep it ready.
3. Try to get in contacts with most of your friends and manpower agencies in India.
4. If you file for your 485 in next one or one and half years, then proeceed with MBA plans(parttime or full time or executive MBA) in top 25-30 business school.
5. Your waiting will yeild fruit in this country only with MBA as in next 10 years, US will need more managers than programmers to manager all their outsourced projects.
6. If you do not have such vision and you are happy with what you are doing now and if your job is secured for next 100years and if you feel that you will be happy in future by doing the same job and OK with other kids going up the ladder stepping on you and if you are ok reporting to them and listening to them, getting bashed by them etc etc, you can very well wait for next 100 years hoping to get GC one day.
I am not talking about one guy in one corner living beautiful life.
I am not talking about guys who are lucky on everthing to get on time including GC.
I am talking about majority of the people and general human nature, people who came to US with a vision for their career and life. People who have had and has a spark in their eyes.
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asdcrajnet
07-05 07:51 AM
Just talked to a USCIS customer representative
my application is still not in the system. My application reached USCIS in June 27th. I told her that it reached on June 21st....I think I could give it a try on July 12th...
She also said I will get a response(Receipt Notice or the application sent back) in 4 weeks time.
my application is still not in the system. My application reached USCIS in June 27th. I told her that it reached on June 21st....I think I could give it a try on July 12th...
She also said I will get a response(Receipt Notice or the application sent back) in 4 weeks time.
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Tito_ortiz
12-01 02:34 PM
From talking to dozens of people I have met in my MBA program, including folks from MIT, Harvard, etc my lesson tells me this:
If you work in financing or executive positions - for example if you plan to work as a financial analyst at Wall Street - then yes, it makes sense investing in schools which are highly ranked.
For those of us coming from IT related positions and now aspiring to move into project management roles, even IT directorship or CTO position, then ranks become very, very irrelevant. I agree at that point a good MS in information management or MS in telecommunications would be a better deal followed by inexpensive PMP type of courses which you could pay from your own pocket.
If you get an MBA from Sloan or Wharton or Harvard or Berkeley, nothing like it. I know of few people who have not done very well after getting MBAs from these schools. If you want to continue writing comp. programs, then of course there is no need for it. But how many people want to do it forever?
But I agree with Tito to some extent. Especially, if the degree is from even a slightly lower ranked school like Arizona or Northwestern, the returns are not there, and there is a great deal of evidence in that direction.
Having actually studied this data (and being in the business of teaching) gives me some perspective.
But it's still just my 2 cents.
If you work in financing or executive positions - for example if you plan to work as a financial analyst at Wall Street - then yes, it makes sense investing in schools which are highly ranked.
For those of us coming from IT related positions and now aspiring to move into project management roles, even IT directorship or CTO position, then ranks become very, very irrelevant. I agree at that point a good MS in information management or MS in telecommunications would be a better deal followed by inexpensive PMP type of courses which you could pay from your own pocket.
If you get an MBA from Sloan or Wharton or Harvard or Berkeley, nothing like it. I know of few people who have not done very well after getting MBAs from these schools. If you want to continue writing comp. programs, then of course there is no need for it. But how many people want to do it forever?
But I agree with Tito to some extent. Especially, if the degree is from even a slightly lower ranked school like Arizona or Northwestern, the returns are not there, and there is a great deal of evidence in that direction.
Having actually studied this data (and being in the business of teaching) gives me some perspective.
But it's still just my 2 cents.
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pappu
02-13 08:28 AM
I think a change of leadership of IV is critical if we have to get anywhere. IV has not been able to achieve a single thing in all of its existence. Not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Not disclosing the issues they are working on, not disclosing how the funds are distributed, not disclosing the lobbyist they are using. Who in the world calls that leadership!
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
Nice to hear from you.
Pls. update your profile so that you are not an annonymous member and can talk to you. We definately want your leadership skills and abilities since you have been with IV for past one year and seen how we have grown and struggled to reach where we are now. Do come to DC and help us. We need people like you to help us run around and meet lawmaker offices, contact other organizations, contact employers, communicate with IV members, manage forums, contact and manage media efforts, manage funds, manage lobbying efforts with the lobbyists, go to conferences and meetings to give presentations or to simply meet people hoping for help for our cause etc etc.
We are just overwhelmed with so many tasks and most of the above tasks happen during business hours. So we find it increasingly tough to manage both our jobs and IV work. We are trying to do all the above and have requested all members to actively participate in at least their state chapters to help us out. I am sure you must have successfully led your state chapter, met all your lawmakers from your state, contacted your employer for support and have enough management experience and drive to get something done.
Please contact us and we will be happy to discuss this exciting possibility with you.
Thanks
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
Nice to hear from you.
Pls. update your profile so that you are not an annonymous member and can talk to you. We definately want your leadership skills and abilities since you have been with IV for past one year and seen how we have grown and struggled to reach where we are now. Do come to DC and help us. We need people like you to help us run around and meet lawmaker offices, contact other organizations, contact employers, communicate with IV members, manage forums, contact and manage media efforts, manage funds, manage lobbying efforts with the lobbyists, go to conferences and meetings to give presentations or to simply meet people hoping for help for our cause etc etc.
We are just overwhelmed with so many tasks and most of the above tasks happen during business hours. So we find it increasingly tough to manage both our jobs and IV work. We are trying to do all the above and have requested all members to actively participate in at least their state chapters to help us out. I am sure you must have successfully led your state chapter, met all your lawmakers from your state, contacted your employer for support and have enough management experience and drive to get something done.
Please contact us and we will be happy to discuss this exciting possibility with you.
Thanks
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sanju_dba
06-11 01:51 PM
Hi,
This is one of my friends case: Please guide him....
"My wife's employer filed for her GC during 2007 August rush for all of us. Her case is in EB3 with Feb 2005 PD. My labor is approved and filed for I-140 about a year ago and still hasn't been approved. Now, my PD is current based on yesterday's Visa Bulletin. Can I file another I-485 for me with a pending I-485 thru my wife's employer?"
Thanks in advance....
I think you cannot.
some where in these forums you can dig more...
PD Porting is applicable for the primary applicant but not to the derivative ( ie you ).
Please double check with your attorney, I wish i am wrong!
This is one of my friends case: Please guide him....
"My wife's employer filed for her GC during 2007 August rush for all of us. Her case is in EB3 with Feb 2005 PD. My labor is approved and filed for I-140 about a year ago and still hasn't been approved. Now, my PD is current based on yesterday's Visa Bulletin. Can I file another I-485 for me with a pending I-485 thru my wife's employer?"
Thanks in advance....
I think you cannot.
some where in these forums you can dig more...
PD Porting is applicable for the primary applicant but not to the derivative ( ie you ).
Please double check with your attorney, I wish i am wrong!
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yoda
09-21 11:09 AM
Let us give IV Core a few more days to think through and recommend the next course of action. Many must have returned home from DC only yesterday after being present even on Wed. after the majority of us had returned.
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flresident
06-11 08:22 AM
Even though I am an EB2 filer and very happy to see the Eb2 movement, I feel sorry for EB3 guys. Hopefully Eb3 will start moving faster soon. This is good news but we should focus on our current priorities and help IV core members to accomplish our main goal. Yesterday only I contributed to IV and I hope rest of the members do the same.
Good luck to all who are current.
Eb2, PD: June 2006
Good luck to all who are current.
Eb2, PD: June 2006
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kartikiran
06-10 04:09 PM
EB 3 India has become joke when u look over all the previous patterns. :mad:
sagar_nyc, agreed. EB3 is a joke and even worst I have become a joker in front of all my friends who applied in EB2 cheating the system. Funny is, experience wise, I am well ahead of all those making fun of me but...:-(
too bad, eb3 does not even have a place to vent these days as IV forums and its thread only has discussions from EB2 members.
anyway, best of luck to everybody. the world is not fair, I am willing to fight my part to make it fair and just for all.
sagar_nyc, agreed. EB3 is a joke and even worst I have become a joker in front of all my friends who applied in EB2 cheating the system. Funny is, experience wise, I am well ahead of all those making fun of me but...:-(
too bad, eb3 does not even have a place to vent these days as IV forums and its thread only has discussions from EB2 members.
anyway, best of luck to everybody. the world is not fair, I am willing to fight my part to make it fair and just for all.
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