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  • wonderlust
    09-20 04:06 PM
    Thumb-up for the DC Rally! I think our efforts will be long-term. We got to get the idea across to as many people as possible. Rally is powerful, but we also need to use other types of campaign--big or small to get our voice heard.

    One idea my American friend shared with me was to make presentations at retirement centers or community centers/ events. We need to be visible and our contribution to the country made known.

    Wonderlust

    Hello guys!

    I wanted to volunteer a thought that had been in my head, so I am basically thinking out loud here for a bit, just throwing this out there for your guidance, tell me if you think this is too aggressive, or even premature?

    I think we need another rally before the end of the year. There are 2 reasons:

    1- Presidential campaigns: After this Fall, presidential campaigns will be in full swing, and thus commanding all the attention of Congress, the media and the American public.

    2- Memory: People's memories are short. Now that we have the attention of the media and Capitol Hill, wouldn't it make sense that this is the time to redouble our efforts and push harder? If we wait, the iron might just cool off.

    Having said that, and as we know, a rally means a lot of money, a lot of work, a lot of dedication to organize. Yet, no one said our struggle was easy, and other people and groups who have gone through tough struggles have had to go through extraordinary lengths to achieve their goals.

    So, if we were to hypothetically hold a second rally this Fall, we could go for the "low-hanging fruit", i.e. we can hold the rally where the most of us live, such as Silicon Valley (and we know those folks really come through), we can plan to reach attendance to this event in the tens of thousands. I know we might not have enough time, and the people who worked so hard on the DC rally are probably exhausted. But, what if we just focus on an area where there are a LOT of us, and do a "no-frills" rally? Just get the police permits and show up. Our numbers will do the rest.




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  • SmSm
    12-01 10:50 AM
    Lets NOT do a hunger strike.
    Think of something that is unique, gets media attention, something that has not been done, but conveys the message in a very subtle way and yet is very powerful and will create a lump in the throat.
    Free math turoring, free SAT preperation classes, you get the idea....




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  • pappu
    02-13 08:28 AM
    I think a change of leadership of IV is critical if we have to get anywhere. IV has not been able to achieve a single thing in all of its existence. Not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Not disclosing the issues they are working on, not disclosing how the funds are distributed, not disclosing the lobbyist they are using. Who in the world calls that leadership!

    That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.

    I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!

    But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.

    Nice to hear from you.
    Pls. update your profile so that you are not an annonymous member and can talk to you. We definately want your leadership skills and abilities since you have been with IV for past one year and seen how we have grown and struggled to reach where we are now. Do come to DC and help us. We need people like you to help us run around and meet lawmaker offices, contact other organizations, contact employers, communicate with IV members, manage forums, contact and manage media efforts, manage funds, manage lobbying efforts with the lobbyists, go to conferences and meetings to give presentations or to simply meet people hoping for help for our cause etc etc.

    We are just overwhelmed with so many tasks and most of the above tasks happen during business hours. So we find it increasingly tough to manage both our jobs and IV work. We are trying to do all the above and have requested all members to actively participate in at least their state chapters to help us out. I am sure you must have successfully led your state chapter, met all your lawmakers from your state, contacted your employer for support and have enough management experience and drive to get something done.

    Please contact us and we will be happy to discuss this exciting possibility with you.

    Thanks




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  • alterego
    09-20 06:35 PM
    I have to admire the unbelievable energy and commitment of you guys. Especially those who organized the rally and to some extent those who attended it from far away are probably tired and catching their breath!

    We need to have some creativity and strategy in our next step. Rally after rally probably is not the best way to get that, the so called law of diminishing returns. The flower protest for example gave us a lot of visibility and media coverage since it was something intriguing and new. It was fairly inexpensive and got us the kind of coverage we wanted and arguably results that were out of size with the effort.

    I think we need to think outside the box and have one more high publicity event. Another rally is certainly an option for later should legislative action heat up. I'm hopeful the upcoming legislation will allow someone to introduce friendly legislation. I am sure IV's lobbying advisers will have some input on timing etc. and I am pretty sure organizations like compete America etc. also will use this to push their efforts as well. IV core ought to be in contact with them.

    A few very important things came from this rally. Firstly, that we can organize such an event, in no small part due to such a committed and capable leadership team. We got fairly good media coverage in highly visible newspapers, that covered not just the event but also some of the issues facing us in clear detail. Finally the lobby day events were definitely very good. I was amazed that 150 meetings took place.
    To put this in context, large national organizations of some professions have these lobby days sometimes, and they do well to get about 100 lawmaker meetings done.

    One thing I wish to add is that we must develop a good way of sending out many letters at will/as per the strategy of IV core to the lawmakers at critical times. We are 23K strong. Surely we can get atleast as many letters sent in to lawmakers at critical times. If you can't send a written petition to a lawmaker then I doubt it makes any sense to even think you or anyone can alter your fate, in that case time spent on sites like this is for what reason?
    Professional organizations do letter campaigns all the time and get a good response. If everyone moves on these issues it does create a splash and can bring visibility and attention.

    All ideas should be collected here in this thread.



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  • Jaime
    09-10 02:40 PM
    This is your opportunity! You still have time! We will help you with travel money!!! LET'S GO!!!!!!!! LET"S ALL GO TO DC TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!




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  • akhilmahajan
    09-06 04:09 PM
    YES Baby!. I am making it to the Sep 18th DC Rally. I am also bringing my parents (who are visiting US) along with me to the rally. So, total count is 3.

    Initially, I was planning to take them to just NYC. Now I changed plans and decided to show them DC as well. Since we are talking about Washington Monument and Capitol Building, I don't think they will mind at all :).

    Go Fellows Go...

    Really appreciate your commitment Please motivate your friends also.
    Thanks a lot.



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  • ujjvalkoul
    07-17 06:00 PM
    Please see SKILL bill details:

    Univ has to be accredited (google this word to c if ur Univ is)

    Plus: MS/MBA has to be in same field u are applying GC for.




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  • senthil1
    05-31 01:43 PM
    Main reasons for restrictions in legal immigration are
    1. Organised compaign by anti immigrants with data. They proved that H1b persons were paid 20% below the market rate. There is no defence from orgainised compaign by pro immigrants. Pro immigrants gave the statement that shortage of skilled workers but they were not able to give supporting data. Newspaper stories are not enough
    2. Reaching h1b cap in 2 days gave negative picture instead of positive. Mostly consulting companies rushed to get h1b without valid job positions

    3. Instead of asking reasonable numbers Corporations and pro immigrants asked exemptions in H1b numbers and green card numbers. They want to make sure that unlimited numbers so that they can hire or fire anyone.
    4. Immigrants are suffering by backlogs and they are expressed by IV and Lawyers. But that is not enough to justify immigration. That should be justified with real need for welfare of country
    5. Before dot com bust even lot of US citizens welcomed H1b persons as there was not much layoffs. But past 7 years layoffs increased to outsource to India,China and other countries. For that they have to hire H1b and L1 persons from Countries mainly India. Those things made anti immigrants hardened their stand. US workers fear that they may lose job if US opens up immigration too much.
    6. Some Indian consulting companies exploited the situation by just hiring H1bs not even trying to recruit US workers even if they available. But some Indian companies like TCS,Infosys started hiring US workers nowadays because of shortage of H1b.

    H1b persons are considered as best skilled persons so Companies can afford to pay 5000 or even 10000$. Infact H1b persons should be paid 20% above US workers as they are considered as better than US workers. That is the reason for raising the fees by two thirds of Senators

    Microsoft was doing effective compaign. Infact they asked resumes from programmers Guild. If many people do realistic campaign instead of opposing anti immigrants that will be easy to reform immigration


    I am sure that the tech lobbyist are going to change the rules applied to the H1-B process, because everyone knows the effect of this to the econoomy. I am totally convinced that the strict H1-B rules will be removed.

    I am trying to figure out or want to see how or will these tech companies force or lobby to get EB relief.
    How important is EB relief for them?

    1) they can't hire brains from US universities.
    2) they can't hire those who they think would benefit the company but are stuck with their GC process with some other small consulting firm.

    I see STEM with advance degree getting relief, the current backlog will not be benefitted a lot (eg. Real hike in EB visas, Removing the country cap). I am not being a pessimist but, I do not see a light in my path. (May be my comments are wrong)

    **** Important Note****
    After the State Union Speech given by the President to change the Immigration system, we saw a huge applause by all the law makers. So many individual bills in favor of Skill were introduced. Mr Gates, in front of Senate gave a detailed explaination of our problems, we saw few bills after H1-B quota ran out on the second day of the filing date added to the senate judiciary committee.
    Our hopes increased after seeing so many favourable documents and media coverage, but what happened in the end.. Illegals were given a very very very easy path to citizenship after breaking the law.They get a relief which we can never imagine will ever happen to us.

    Let us say we get the oppurtunity to file I-485 without PD. Increase in H1-B, Increase in EB visas. But still we have to stick to an employer, can't move up the ladder because of the same Labor description needed to be mainain I-485 if we take AC21.

    I cannot digest and will never be able to digest that we are not given the oppurtunity to file our I-485 individually and work for any employer.



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  • mshelat
    05-03 11:28 AM
    This is really an intersting and very important information for people on H1B wih H4 dependents. Is there any one who has inquired about this with SSA? I am planning to do it next week and shall inform the forum.




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  • bfadlia
    01-12 03:18 PM
    Don't want to pick on anyone one or anything.. just case-in-point to what I posted earlier.. here we have intense legal debates, and legal opinions with people who can not distinguish between Title VII and EEO which are legislative laws and between the constitution. These laws are not part of the constitution and they include provisions for federal and local governments and their agencies to override parts of rules if they deem necessary.


    Again you are plain wrong. If a non-US citizen buys house in the US then does he have the right to own the house and live as he wants? The answer is YES.

    Similarly, the US Constitution protects certain rights of non-US citizens who are in the US. One of them is right to the Equal Opportunity Employment. Now if a law is passed such that it intentionally or unintentionally goes against the right of the US citizens or non-US citizens, employed in the lands of the US, to Equal Opportunity Employment then YES the US courts can rule that the law is unconstitutional and hence no longer applies.

    The Key Point: Equal opportunity employement advancement is protected by Constitution ("Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII)") and hence the Supreme Court can overturn the per country quota limitation if the Supreme Court finds that the per country quota leads to discrimination at employment, which is unconstitutional.

    Unfortunately, I agree with you, this thread is going no where. It will go on for 10+ pages and then die. I have seen may be 5 such threads on immigrationvoice and .



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  • testsite
    08-20 07:44 PM
    Berry Scheniderman, Virginia. Horrible experience. They took 3 months to file for my H1B extension and then I was running out of time so I had to get it converted to premium processing. They simply sit on the case.

    Alan Heckler, (Specially the paralegal named Cathy)., takes months to respond . The only thing they are quick are at getting money. Totally unresponsive.

    Under current, LLC in Chicago , takes weeks to see the paperwork that you send and weeks to process them




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  • delhiguy79
    07-24 11:23 AM
    140 reached NSC on July 11.
    Receipt date is July 17, attorney says they got it today, July 24.

    So for those at NSC who filed within a day or two of me, mght be better to hold off for a couple of days before filing 485 with the colored sheet which will probably add some delays in the mailroom

    mine reached NSC on July 16th...hopefully i ll recieve it by next week.



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  • needhelp!
    02-25 05:14 PM
    ~ 3309 LETTERS SO FAR ~




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  • chmur
    11-15 07:08 PM
    I totally understand the push from IV to encourage state chapters and build grassroots strength to this movement.

    Join the state chapter : IV does not have a state chapter in the state I live in - Nebraska,: So I thought I would start one and wrote to IV ...after initial response from IV , there has been no progress .

    Start contributing: I have already contributed $100 and will contribute further as and when I can.

    Volunteer for IV: Volunteered to start the state chapter.

    Well I have done my bit so hopefully I will not be disparaged for making comments on this issue,

    Singlemost big bottleneck is lack of "Visa Numbers"...

    485 applications pending :~340,000( ~ 320,000(recent flood) + ~20,000 SWAG on previously pending ).

    visa numbers have been lost in the recent past - ~200,000 (This is the number thrown around)

    Visa numbers available if we recapture :~340,000 (200,000 + 140,000 of this years quota)

    So, if we had not lost those numbers, retrogression would be minimal/reasonable.

    We could have even accommodated the skewness of India & china numbers, because each year India & China would have been benefitted by unused ROW numbers.

    From my above understanding, the quota(140,000) fixed seems to be fine/reasonable, though per country quota is extremely unrealistic. But even this will not hurt much as long as unused numbers are used up by year end.

    IMHO, demanding recapture is more an easy/winnable/achievable argument than the one to raise the quota itself .

    Because the reason the visa numbers were lost is purely due to incompetencies of two federal institutions. State Dept and USCIS.

    For two and half years (05 - 07 June) they artificially retrogressed the dates
    way back to 1999 - 2001.

    This prevented any approvals and new applications even though plenty of visa numbers were available(~ 200,000 cumulative).

    For congress/senate it is easy to make their case for recapture citing incompetencies of these institutions rather than making case for "INCREASE" in numbers.

    Many ways to achieve this objective- Ask for increase and settle for recapture.

    Anyway - My point is Recapture will solve most of our problems and we should channel most of our resources to achieve this objective.



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  • ufo2002
    11-08 03:04 PM
    How does passing CIR help us? I didn't really have the energy to go thru the whole bill but it didn't specify what "line" those 20+million ppl who eventually get amnesty will be processed in. If they line up on EB3 or a supplementary bill in the future decides to allocate some EB3 to a "Schedule B" (just for example), then we are right back to where we started (but add more years to the waiting).




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  • fall2004us
    08-21 03:14 PM
    One of the required documents for PIO card is (apostilled copy of the US passport holder)
    just wondering what did you do to get the documents apostilled ?
    I tried looking for an answer, looks like it is a long procedure and you have to get it certified by the US dept of state ???
    So I applied for a 10year visa for my daughter and they issued in 8 days from san francisco.



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  • Canadianindian
    06-25 12:03 PM
    We at the Tristate are having an extensive effort to follow up on ALL action items including this one.

    We request all State Chapter representatives to also take this effort to their local chapters, and request/persuade your local members to call.

    The Tristate members are very actively following each and every action item. We request that all states do the same.

    Thank you for supporting yourself.




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  • ohmasala1
    06-23 05:09 PM
    I called and the staff member said, she will pass the message




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  • bushman06
    05-17 03:39 PM
    done




    arunmohan
    02-14 01:09 AM
    IV:

    This would be a ray of light for us. Please make a strategy or plan for how to move in this direction.




    Olena
    07-04 10:26 AM
    In Great Britain actually it is not only that the spouse of employee is allowed to work, but also a spouse of a STUDENT!!!!
    Better not to compare that system with American - it's too depressing!



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